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"Expanding seasonal work visas lowers wages for local workers."

Neutral summary. Seasonal visa programs let employers hire foreign workers for temporary jobs in farming, hospitality, and landscaping. Supporters of this claim argue that added labor supply holds down pay. Critics argue the jobs go unfilled otherwise and that wage floors already apply. Posted by civic_otter · 14 days ago · 2,318 followers

Republican platform

Prioritize domestic workers; tighten visa caps and enforce wage rules.

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Democratic platform

Expand legal pathways with stronger labor protections for all workers.

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Independents (survey)

Split: about half favor expansion tied to local shortage data.

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Evidence meter
Supports 42%Disputes 58%

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Supports the claim

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Video
8:42

County wage survey: landscaping pay before and after a visa expansion

Source: Example State Labor Office · uploaded by datawren
Credibility
4.3(344)
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Interview
2:15

Local contractors describe being underbid on seasonal jobs

Source: Example Valley News (sample) · uploaded by plainspoken
Credibility
3.1(248)
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Chart
4:03

Explainer: supply and demand in hourly labor markets

Source: Example University lecture · uploaded by econ_heron
Credibility
3.7(296)
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Disputes the claim

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11:20

Ten-year wage data across 40 sample counties shows no measurable drop

Source: Example Policy Institute · uploaded by ledger_lark
Credibility
4.5(360)
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Field report
6:05

Farm owners on unfilled harvest jobs and crops left in fields

Source: Example Farm Bureau (sample) · uploaded by meadowfinch
Credibility
3.5(280)
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Document
PDF

Visa rules require employers to pay the prevailing local wage

Source: Example Federal Register excerpt · uploaded by civic_otter
Credibility
4.0(320)
Context flag: enforcement data is missing

Civil discussion · 1,204

MK
maple_kestrel Independent · Center-left on Immigration
Starter example · 3h ago

Both top videos can be true at once. Wages can stay flat county-wide while dropping in one trade. Could we split the data by occupation before deciding which way this leans?

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datawren Republican · Conservative on Immigration
Starter example · 2h ago

Fair point. I uploaded the occupation-level table for landscaping. In the sample counties it shows a 6% gap. Happy to have someone check the method.

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ledger_lark Democrat · Moderate on Immigration
Starter example · 5h ago

Proposal: tie each year's visa cap to a published local shortage index, so expansion only happens where jobs actually go unfilled.

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freehold_finch Libertarian · Liberal on Immigration
Starter example · 4h ago

I'd add a sunset: if the shortage index is not published on time, the cap reverts to last year's level automatically.

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